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Wellness Curated
The AI Wellness Revolution
AI is not just changing what we search or watch, it is changing how we eat, move, sleep and recover. For years, health meant guessing through calorie counting, gym plans and trial and error diets. Now, our devices quietly track thousands of data points we barely notice, from heart rate and meals to sleep and metabolism, and AI is finally turning that into clarity we can use.
In this episode of The Wellness Algorithm, we are joined by Tushar Vashisht, Co founder and CEO of HealthifyMe, a platform used by over 40 million people. Together, we explore how AI is reshaping everyday wellbeing, from photo based food tracking and real time nudges to personalised workout planning and stress aware recommendations. This is not about replacing experts, it is about making precision easy and support available anytime. We also unpack what people get wrong about AI in health, why guidance must feel human to work, and how behaviour change sticks when technology and empathy work together. Whether you are a sceptic or already tracking your health, this conversation shows what the future of daily wellness actually looks like.
Most people think AI adds more noise, but the opposite is true when it’s done well. It cuts friction, reduces decision fatigue and simply tells you what to do next — not everything at once. From eating smarter without restriction to syncing movement and recovery, the shift is already underway. If you’re curious how this could play out in your own routine, this episode is where you start.
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Anshu Bahanda: Not long ago, getting healthy actually meant flipping through diet books or guessing at gym routines and hoping things would work out. Fast forward to today. When someone's trying to lose weight or someone's trying to manage their health, there's probably an app that knows exactly what they ate yesterday, that knows how they slept and whether their body is ready for a really tough workout or not. It feels magical, but it's not magic. It's pure data. More than 400 million users today worldwide are using health and wellness apps mainly powered by artificial intelligence, learning our patterns, predicting our needs and nudging us towards better choices. This isn't just convenience, it's a wellness revolution. One where technology isn't just tracking our lives, but it's actually helping shape them.
This is Anshu Bahanda from Wellness Curated. Welcome to the Wellness Algorithm where we explore how wellness is never fixed. It's an evolving algorithm that shifts with our lives, our choices. And now, even with the technology that surrounds us today, we're talking about the AI Wellness Revolution. For decades wellness meant trial and error. Diet books, gym routines, one size fits all. But now technology can actually learn from you, from your habits, your sleep, your food, and deliver insights in real time. To unpack all this, I have with me Tushar Vashisht. He's the Co-Founder and CEO of HealthifyMe. With over 40 million users worldwide, his platform is one of the pioneers in making personalized AI driven health accessible. Few people have a clearer view of how AI is transforming daily wellness. And before we dive in, don't forget to subscribe. It's free and it ensures you'll never miss these conversations that simplify, challenge and reimagine the future of wellness.
So Tushar people are calling this the AI Wellness Revolution. What makes this moment actually revolutionary instead of just another tech trend?
Tushar Vashisht: Well, AI is revolutionizing many parts of our everyday life. Right. And wellness obviously is one of them. It's just that wellness is a bit of a special case because let's think about it. What areas does AI thrive really well in today? Interpreting data, incredible advice, helping plan routines and situations, and in the short time in, the short near future, agentically playing on your behalf or making decisions on your behalf. Now in wellness, these combine quite well because you've got relevant data streaming in from like devices like the ones I'm wearing to others that are capturing information all the time on sleep, heart rate, you know, workouts, steps, your phone's tracking and compiling a lot of information about you. Even your metabolic health reports today have APIs, your smart scales, calibrating your weight data. And of course, with apps like Healthify, you're able to keep a track of your nutrition, making it as easy as just taking a photo. So where AI has really helped is making sense of all of this information and almost dumbing it down for the next best action or the next best insight for you.
And I think that's where AI is playing a remarkable role. It's also helping in making input tracking much easier. I mean, how many of us have struggled with calorie counting throughout our lives, right? We start, stop, start, stop. But if you, all you had to do was just take a photo and forget about it. And AI does the hard job of figuring out what's in your gallery, that is food, and then tracking it for you so you don't even have to open an app. I mean, AI is able to simply determine what's food and track it for you, right? So it's making that job much easier than was hitherto possible, is making sense of the data. And the next thing we use, in wellness a lot is incredible advice and good planning. And again, within that, AI plays a remarkable job in helping build meal plans, fitness routines, answering any questions that you have, or any difficult, you know, if you're choosing between a certain food, another food, you're choosing between, you know, what time should wake up or what should your workout, you know, sort of layering should be, you know, what's good for you in your specific case, if you're diabetic or not. I mean, you'd need one, two, maybe even three professional qualified resources in the past with a lot of time to look at data and interpret that for you. But with AI, you know, all of them can be combined into a single expert who can really swim through your data and insights and be there alongside. So that's a huge revolution.
And I didn't quite cover the agentic part, but coming soon, you know, and AI can help make decisions such as order your food, deliver your meal plans in the form of groceries, or, you know, book an Uber for your next gym workout. So those things are the ways that, you know, AI is completely revolutionizing the way we see and approach wellness today. And it's a very good opportunity. Plus, thankfully, wellness is not as regulated as core healthcare or some other systems where AI has restrictions. So today there's nothing that stops us from really pushing AI to its limits when it comes to wellness linked advice feedback, which is real time, personalized you know, on demand, always available and always on.
AB: Okay, but Tushar, on that note, there seems to be AI solutions for a lot in, in wellness, right? And people are, I believe 400 million people are using apps in the world today for health and fitness. But how did you stop people from feeling overwhelmed? There is so much out there.
TV: You know, that was the problem with tech. Anshu tech could synthesize a lot of data and share it with you. But that is overwhelming indeed. What AI can do a great job is determining what's important and what's not. So we at Healthify, for example, stream tens of thousands of data vectors about you every hour, right? These are heart rate, step sleep, you know, we stitch it, we analyze it with your glucose reports, anything that we have in your, from your continuous glucose monitors, smart scale blood work. But we don't expose you to all of that. You know, we come up with a simple two liner next best action. Hey, by the way, you know, it's evening time, you know, you had a late lunch, you might be feeling a little sleepy, if so, go for a little walk.
It's a nudge, it's a little gentle push. It doesn't necessarily tell you about the powers that it is powering through, but it is, you know, compressing that and it is, creating an information hierarchy. You know, it's not so overwhelming for you in the historic world. In the previous world, yes, this information stream could be hard, but with AI it's actually not. So it's actually making the job easier. Just take a photo, forget about it. When you want to lean into it, you can, if you want to go down a rabbit hole. And AI can, hey, specifically talk to me about how, you know, my muscle gains are going to be with the specific, you know, creatine and protein supplementation that I am taking and why, especially if I'm on GLP1. And here's my personalized routine. You can definitely go down the rabbit hole with and it'll hold its own quite well and go down to the last depth of why its recommendation is coming and what data it's grounded on. But at the same time it can kind of layer it such that it doesn't overwhelm you at the outset.
AB: Okay, so tell me, you have millions of users, right? And they have one-on-one coaching, you know, when they're speaking to AI and not a human being. How do they take this?
TV: People love talking to an AI because it's real time, can get feedback instantly and it can swim through a lot of your data. So in fact, the majority of our messages, our clients choose to send knowingly to our AI. Having said that, it's also important to note that at Healthify, we don't believe that AI alone can solve the puzzle. You know, AI can help you provide very accurate knowledge and information, but it struggles to drive emotional changes. So it struggles to drive behavior change because it cannot drive accountability as well as human beings scan as experts can. So, empathy and accountability is where our dietitians and our trainers step in. You know, we employ hundreds of dietitians and trainers today, in India, but also around the world increasingly.
So now, in the US and Middle east and multiple other markets where, you know, the AI does the first level of processing, but there's a dietitian who you can text anytime and who also engages with you on a call once a month. And we do see, I mean, Stanford's done a pretty landmark paper, about AI's impact on outcomes on weight and for example, AI plus coach impact on outcomes and weight. And that was based off of, incidentally, Healthify's data. And you can clearly see that the AI plus coach outwins AI's performance.
AB: Interesting.
TV: And it is not because the AI is less accurate than the human being and the expert is. In fact, I might even wager that the AI will be more accurate and more real time in providing feedback as humans feel more accountable and more empathetic to other humans and there's a shared life experience. So when a coach says I understand, I know it hits very differently than if an AI says I understand and I know, but yet, like the specifics on how many grams of protein really is what I need for my lunch today and have I met them or not? And AI can probably give you much better advice than an expert nutritionist. Or, hey, I'm in this busy neighborhood in Kensington and I need to find a cafe quickly. Can you give me a recommendation? What I can eat is so much better than a nutritionist to do all that heavy lifting and doing this for such different reasons that you would use one or the other. What an AI can do, a human can't, and what a human can do, an AI can't.
AB: So tell me about the gym. Now for the coaches at the gym, how does that work? Do AI coaches do better than human coaches? And like you're saying, because the emotions can be replaced, at least not at the moment, maybe going forward.
TV: Well, I think the real change is going to be driven by consumers. So as customers, when do we start feeling accountable to an AI is what's going to drive that change? And honestly the answer is not that clear and obvious because while we might rely on trust, the information, weight management workouts are more than trust. It's really an accountability pattern because we struggle to keep up as customers, right? Like we tend to fall in dopamine chasing habits of eating higher sugar foods or of instant gratification by binge watching Netflix or whatever, right. And we tend to prioritize these behaviors and night out over what is long term good for us. It's evolutionary coded for us to maximize energy food consumption is to maximize dopamine hits as much as we can. So asking us to do something which is against evolution typically requires a mentor, a coach and a human being. Or at least does today. We'll have to see how that evolves in the future.
AB: So do you see a future where people might prefer digital coaches over human beings over time?
TV: Well, in a way that's already happened because 60% of our clients' messages are knowingly sent to an AI, not to a human coach. But in another way, it'll never happen because there are aspects and areas in which a human wants another human and there'll be aspects and areas in which a human will trust an AI more so or it'll be like an AI guided by an expert. Like for example, like if you deal with a Healthify dietitian today, you will largely focus on your emotional state, on your environmental patterns, on your, you know, some of your, the way you stack your habits, on your triggers, on what gets you to eat that ice cream at late night post dinner. More than our focus has shifted more on those dimensions than now which used to be several years ago. What's the protein, fat, carb, consumption of that ice cream that you're taking or not and you know, how many calories are you really burning and what we need to change about your meal plan so that stuff can be outsourced to the AI that hey basis these patterns and preferences.
We let the AI generate a meal plan and the human expert can also prompt it, guide it, modify it so that it can override decisions. But otherwise it's a consumer to AI play. You know, that the human supervises. So I think I as a human being will want a dietitian or a fitness trainer for a different purpose than I would want an AI for. Earlier of course the dietitian, the trainer used to do everything and now there is a lot of it. That the AI can do. And I want AI to do that more. So I think I would trust in AI's ability to highly personalize and build my meal plan, for example, more so than an average dietitian without the average dietitian. So I'm far more likely to follow that meal plan if there's a dietitian in the loop who's going to engage with me and hold me accountable. And it's not about how good the AI gets, it's just about shared life experience, which might be hard to empathize with an AI for at least our generation.
Current gen. My daughter is at the border of gen Beta, you know, and she's growing up in an AI integrated environment from her birth. Like her first solid meal plan was crafted by an AI, you know, and at month six. So she's been interfacing with an AI led lifestyle since she was six months old. I mean the real question is, would she be capable of having a relationship with an AI one day? Wow. She established like, you know, a strong, powerful partnership with an AI she calls as her own. If such can happen, then certainly, you know, a relationship with a dietitian like AI can all replace some components, but that's quite far.
AB: My God, that sounds crazy.
TV: Me and my wife talk about it. It's not obvious that Anushka, when she grows up, would. We don't know if there'll be a concept of marriage still around, but would she marry a human being or will it be an AI? Like we, we, we think about these things.
AB: This is a world. I won't understand the relationship with the AI, but like you said, for them it's natural. Just for my children who are older, tech is natural, right? They grew up with that more than with me. But while we are talking about food, Tushar, food is cultural. It's emotion, it's joy. How does this digital tool incorporate all that? Doesn't it sort of kill the joy of eating?
TV: Yes and no. I mean trust me, I am the biggest foodie on this planet. Anshu. I'm the guy who flies so that he can go to restaurants and eat by good chefs, whether they're in a street or in a Michelin 3 star, right? I love food. If I wasn't doing Healthify, I'd be a musician or a chef, like that's what it would be. So I totally get the, you know, how it can dampen some of the joys. I think where it shines though is two things. One in the moment decision, you see, is the 80, 20 rule. You can get 80% of the joy, you know, by making 20% changes. Pareto principle applies here as well. You know, me and my wife, we just went on a final lunch date today. We have to structure these things given we went to a Vietnamese place.
But yesterday I would have probably blindly ordered banh mi or pho. You know, today we were conscious. So we were asked, we asked our, you know, we quickly asked our AI what we should have. And you know, it was nice to get instant recommendations that, you know, there are these incredible, iceberg lettuce with meat. Or there are these amazing, you know, options they had with pomelo based salad, which is absolutely mouth watering and they were frankly as tasty. Once we had had them, we felt satiated, and we asked for a little cheat meal. You know, it was a dessert that we enjoyed. So did we have a date? Did we enjoy Vietnamese? All the flavors are packed, you know, with some morning glory. It was really tasty, but it was still healthy. The second thing it can do is. So it wasn't quite killing the joy, it was modifying it. In fact, the joy was higher because I came back with zero glucose spikes, with no sleepiness afterwards, no lethargy, and no food coma.
I would have sat in if I had had a giant bowl of noodles. The second thing it does is it balances things out well. So, you know, it's sometimes all right to indulge. Like, I like my dessert fix once in a while. I like enjoying multiple course meals at times as well. It's able to provide compensatory strategies that are really strong. Like when I go out, I learned from Ria that, you know, I should probably have, I should have proteins and fiber before I have my guilt options. So, you know, have my, get my salad, get my protein done. So I usually have a nice protein bowl like chicken salad before I go out for a party or something. Because I'm more satiated. I like to drink less. I'm like, my glucose spikes are lower. I'm less likely to, you know, go and go crazy on some other carby item that'll be out there because I'm inherently slightly more full or.
AB: So one thing. Is Ria your AI or your wife?
TV: Oh, my apologies. Ria is my AI. Ria is Healtify’s AI.
AB: Okay, okay, just clarify. I wasn't sure who told you this.
TV: I think I was, I'm blushing right now.
AB: Maybe you're getting there by having the relationship with the, you know, as a friend, maybe as a coach, but you're getting there.
TV: Yeah. It is slightly different though. I think of Ria as a friend, but a subhuman, you know, so there's a delta and a distinction, like, I don't feel accountable to Ria. I think of Ria as a support mechanism or as a friend.
AB: Do you ever want to indulge, like go crazy? You want to binge one day, would you tell Ria so that you could binge right?
TV: Yeah, a hundred percent, you know, so, and, and, and Ria helps in those, those strategies. In fact, if you will, let's just ask her right now and actually ask that same question. It'll be nice to get one. Hey, Ria. Are you there?
Ria (HealthifyMe’s AI): Hey, Tushar. Yes, I'm here. How's it going?
TV: Good, good. Listen, just in a quick, quick, way. Can you tell me how my day is going so far? Broadly,
Ria: Absolutely. So far, you've had a balanced breakfast with Greek yogurt, berries, granola and boiled eggs. Lunch was grilled chicken with rice noodles and some sweet chili sauce. You've burned some calories with a bit of walking today, though. Not as much as the last couple of days. Sleep was better last night, around seven hours, so that's a win. Overall, pretty good start. Okay, let's get to it.
TV: I have a question for you. What if I, you know, I have this really important party to get to and I just really feel like binging, binge eating, and, you know, kind of really going crazy a little bit today? Can you still give me some strategies that can still balance out all the negative damage I'm likely to have, you know, before, after. What else can I do?
Ria: I get it. Parties happen and it's natural to want to indulge a bit. The key is damage control. Before the party, have a small protein rich snack so you're not starving when you arrive. During the party, stick to smaller portions of your favorite foods and maybe skip the sugary cocktails for a lighter drink afterward. Focus on hydrating and get back to your routine the next day with a good workout and clean meals. That way you enjoy the party, but keep your progress on track.
TV: And, any specific drink I should have or avoid. I mean, just looking at my past patterns and how they've spiked my glucose or not.
Ria: I don't have recent glucose data to see what's been spiking you, but generally, sugary cocktails or drinks with sweet mixers can cause glucose spikes. Safer bets are dry wines, light beers, or spirits with soda water and a splash of lime. They're usually lower in sugar and won't spike you as much.
TV: I guess, it'll be a glass of champagne tonight. Thank you. You know, that was a live conversation and I don't have my CGM on more recently, otherwise it would have caught on, you know, given me more specific pieces. But yeah, that was like Ria engaging around the before, the after, strategies to avoid binging and whatnot.
AB: Now tell me, if you were to ask Ria, one morning you wake up and just don't feel like working out, you're in a lazy mood, would she talk you into it? If you tell her, I don't feel like working out, would she ever talk you into working out?
TV: Again It totally depends on how you like to keep your personality. You can ask her to be pushy or you can ask her to be not so pushy. Right, but let's ask what she does. Hey, Ria, I know I haven't had much of a workout today, but I really don't feel like working out. What do you advise? I do.
Ria: I get it. Some days are just tougher. You've been consistent the past couple days, so a lighter day won't hurt. Maybe just a short walk or some stretching. That can help keep your energy up without pushing too hard. Just listen to your body today and we can get back on track tomorrow. Sounds good?
TV: So, you know, what you saw was she was able to look at the last two days and, you know, know that I've been actually doing pretty good workouts the last couple of days. Said, look, I, you know, it's all right, like, take it easy, go for a short walk or whatever. Wasn't too pushy in my case. But you can, you can ask Ria to be more pushy and you can glide it that way. I mean, it depends on what the coach sets your Ria to operate with you. Like for example, so my coach can include that in. And then it would start behaving like that.
AB: Like you were saying, there are certain aspects, like, you know, the emotional side of things where you still, we still need the human being.
TV: Oh, totally.
AB: Now tell me, where do you see AI helping with mental well being? Because it's a pandemic, right? Mental health is a pandemic in the world. And I don't know how human beings can solve this issue
TV: In a big way. Right. Like, it's not just about the data interpretation, it's just about the human connection that you feel with each other as human beings to human beings. Right. So this is my coach, Maria.
AB: Oh, there's another coach now?
TV: Yeah, yeah. So there's this. Ria is an AI coach. Maria is a real human being. Who's that? She's a real human being who engages with me. Right. And who, for example, who's able to empathize on things like and, and give me smaller suggestions. So she looked at my dinner data yesterday and is actually saying that, hey, you know that even though the one thing I highlight is the seeds, plus the seeds actually make up to 40 grams of fat. You know, a simple tweak would be to use seeds as a light sprinkle instead of the 1/4th cup portion that I added in something. And you know, which was nice, a little suggestion, a gentle piece that can make some difference in what I'm doing. You know, like she's actually talking about GLP1 drugs and since you know, some more recently been experimenting with low dose GLP1 intake as well, she actually is explaining that she talks about how she had used GLP1 drugs before, what are the side effects that she faced, didn't face, how she navigated her journey while keeping the protein and the strength workout routines going.
So it's a human, human conversation there. It's not about what rises, what low will happen, what's healthy, what is safe directly. It's more, it's a shared experience that she's talking about. She's lost a lot of weight in her life as well. So she's able to get through those points of intersection in a very human manner of, you know, the struggles of cravings or the difficulties of side effects or of, you know, managing a workout while you're also a young parent are things that she has either lived or knows people who have lived and understands those much better. And that's why the emotional reliance and the accountability that is much more so when my coach calls and checks in on me and it's like a personal health board meeting that I have previously scheduled and it keeps that accountability trigger on much better than if there's an AI alone that I have to check in on.
AB: So you think AI is still a little bit far away from helping people with mental health with emotional health?
TV: Again, yes and no. To be clear, an AI can truly help mental wellness and emotional wellness very much today. There's no doubt about that. So, you know, because the alternative to not having an AI, if the answer is nothing, it's a huge step up. You know, an AI is still programmed well to operate as a therapist, to mimic a therapist and to guide you on strategies to help you navigate your brain patterns and think through better, set your own goals or allow you different vectors, especially where you're struggling or you're in a traumatic situation. What it cannot do is drive long term sustainable behavior change easily, because the long term sustainable behavior change again, requires accountability and shared understanding. So that's an area where a human being or even a therapist can play a strong run. Can AI play a very strong support vector? Absolutely. Will it help in times of immediate access? Much more so than what is possible today. Does it allow access at a fraction of a price point? Yes. Naria subscription is a few dollars a month, for example, but the long term behavior changes outcomes, for example, getting free of depression or getting to a non obese state, you know, getting to a fitter position, changing your diet patterns. I think that you need a human in the loop.
AB: The reason I was asking you all these questions, Tushar, is I've come across a huge amount of people who have an issue with talking to another human being. Especially our generation, not so much the twenties. You know, they think everyone should have a therapist. But a lot of people, you can see they're heading towards a breakdown or you can see that they've got mental health issues, but they don't want to talk to another human being. Isn't that somewhere where AI can really help?
TV: I would like to think of it like a therapist lite. Right. So it's like, I mean, you know, once again, I'm not a mental wellness expert and I'm not an emotional wellness expert. That's not Healthify's core. But in my analog, what I can tell you is that it's a great first line of defense. In fact, a lot of people buy our AI subscriptions first and we see about 25% people convert from that to a human coaching subscription afterwards. So it's a, it costs less, it's available on demand, you don't have to deal with some other human expert or go through the problems and pains of figuring out who a good one is or not. By doing that, you're taking charge of your health, you're taking charge of your diet, or perhaps in the other analog, you're taking charge of your current mental wellness state. So it's a great stepping stone, it's a gateway, if you will. And then after that, if you want to go through something like, hey, I'm ready to actually make a transformation, I see some strength here, I see value here. And here I am, I'm prepared to change myself, whether it is from my current mental state to a better mental state or whether it is my current physical state to a better physical state.
That's when I think a human being can truly help you get there. Because some of the tasks we have to do to get there, some of the rewiring that's programming that's required is hard. You have to meditate every day, or you have to work out every day, or you have to not eat things that your evolution wants you to eat, or you have to stay away from devices that are creating a lot of dopamine addiction, et cetera, all of that, an expert is far better in delivering outcomes on.
AB: Interesting. There's one thing which people are so scared of, so scared of, and that is sharing their personal health data. Again, I'm not talking about the really younger generation, I'm talking about probably 40 and above. But how do you get people to trust AI?
TV: Personally, I think trusting an AI is no different than trusting any other tech system. So when you're submitting your data, you know, AI is just processing that and providing insights based off of that. That's the generative AI, large language models and pieces that you're talking about. Most good companies today do not train those LLMs with any personalized information. So any personal information that you provide does not even go to an LLM. Like only a metadata goes to the LLM and then comes back from an LLM. So as you know, a large language won't know whether it's Anshu or whether it is Tushar. It's just saying a person with these characteristics and this life pattern situation is sending this kind of data. Having said that, the real question is, are you comfortable trusting your health data, with a tech system, you know, with a certain company, is it trustworthy or is it some random company?
And whenever thinking about data, really the equation that people make a decision on is what's the consequence to me sharing something? And that is a personal decision at the end of the day, you know, like I for one have no problems in the world knowing about or even the tech systems knowing, certainly the tech systems knowing about my own health data as long as it helps me drive better decisions on it, and certainly much lesser threshold for a tech system knowing what I ate for food, if it helps me make better decisions for food. Food. I would get more worried if any personally identifiable information was being shared. My id, phone number, address or where I work or what I do and who am I married to, etc. Those are more concerning elements to me. But my health data, if it allows me to make better decisions then why not? So it is a personal choice. I don't think AI is anything to be scared about. The real decision has consequences to the system. So is it a trustworthy system that you're sharing it with? Who would follow GDPR and who would allow you to manage your data? Or is it a pretty shady provider that's likely to sell that data to somebody?
AB: And if we were to say, Fast forward to 2030, what do you think a typical morning would look like in an AI powered wellness world? Maybe you're already living the world I'm asking you about, but tell us.
TV: No, I think, look, things will definitely evolve a lot further from here by 2030, right? It's incredible to imagine what five years away will look like, but I for one would like to believe that indeed when you wake up in the morning in 2030, your first hour will be with no gadgets or devices. It'll be a retro retreat to a slightly more analog world. Because the beautiful part about AI is that it's screen free and that it allows human beings to be human beings again. It just doesn't allow you to neck down, keep immersing in a screen. So you're likely to behave slightly more analogy. You're likely to talk as if you're talking to a tech system, naturally through a language you know. As you wake up, your room will likely have a lot of automation, the speaker embedded somewhere that you can recognize your voice and you can engage with it. It would probably open up the sunlight for you, so you get morning sunlight. Your automatic drink maker would already have your electrolytes and vitamins ready and your personalized nutrition that you can take in the morning already ready. Whether it's a some form of AG1 or something else that you know, gets combined with something else that you're engaging with and you know, you get your workout routines done, chances are that you've already had a conversation the previous week or the previous day about what workouts you want to do today or not.
You can review those with a voice. Breakfast is probably ready. Either a robot's made it or it's delivered to you on time, on spot, in the way you want it to, you know, through mechanisms. Your food is pretty much spoken for or taken care of. You can modify it as well, anytime you want. But a default state. Your food will be there for you at the time. You don't have to make those decisions in the moment, typically unless you want to. You can override decisions. But food, exercise, sleep routines would be taken care of. They'll be managed by systems that you have given authorization to that have your billing details and that are already taking care of you. Almost like a very smart personalized assistant after coordinating with your personal dietitian, your personal trainer. And you would have done for you would have been automatically and almost not at all done without you looking at any screen, you know.
So AI will be there when you need it, won't be there when you don't. Chances are that as you drive to work, you will probably put on your smart glasses and you will review the day and you'll review your things as you, as you get there. A lot of the work will get done through vision and voice. So I do think I'm very bullish on smart glasses because they combine the ability to do vision and voice. I don't think we'll all be chip inside brains won't be ubiquitous by 2030, but I think a vision and a voice format will certainly be something that will be, all of us will be engaging with, that'll be aware of your data patterns, constrained systems that you can talk to situations. So overall it's an optimistic world. It's fewer screens, it's overall more healthy, it's more intentional, the world is more intentional. But it allows room for spontaneity. I mean it allows us to be human. In fact it removes the distractions of the screen and you can interrupt any process and change it to anything you want in your vim, any which way. So I see a very optimistic bright color. If there was a movie, I'd like it to be full of light and wood and all kinds of good sounding music and analog displays.
AB: And what do you think? One quick question before we go into rapid, what do you think the next big revolution is going to be?
TV: Well, I think AI is definitely one of the biggest revolutions out there. If you look at the last, you know, Homo sapiens have been around 250, 200,000 years about the same species, same intelligence. And we've gone from literally just about having fire and cooking food and you know, using rocks to today building spacecraft that travel the universe and or at least the solar system. And we are able to have very high functioning science and technology and especially the exponential evolution. There has largely come the more and more we've been able to combine our knowledge so that we can operate as a collective brain. Earlier we could do it in small gatherings, then we could do it in cities, then we could do it in countries, and finally we could do it at a global scale with the information age with the Internet. And now all of that information is now compressed into an AI system that can do it seamlessly all the time. So you know, our ability to cross evolution with information has been quite fascinating and that's the threshold of evolution we are at. But I think along with this, the other big one which is a constraint for any AI system will be energy. And energy can solve food, hunger, poverty problems and can solve for powering up the AI far better than anything else can. So there I'm very excited about fusion, cold, fusion. So I think once cold fusion comes in, the world's energy problems are over. And once the world's energy problems are over, technically we are in limitless capacity.
AB: Thank you, Tushar. Now I'm going to end with a quick game with you. I'm going to throw a sentence at you. Tell me, AI or human, who would do it better? And one reason why, designing a 12 week workout plan
TV: AI because it's so much more aware about your data and the kind of foods you like, the seasonal variations that will be happening here and can probably do it better than an average human can.
AB: Helping someone recover from an injury,
TV: Now that's a tough one. I would say a human can do a better job because again, while an AI can provide better knowledge, I think a human being will be able to nudge a safe pathway much better, especially if it's an emotional injury or if it's a physical type as well. You know, guiding that person every day through taking accountability there. I think a human would deliver better outcomes. But it's a tough one. It's on the ballots.
AB: Convincing you not to eat that extra piece of cake.
TV: Oh, absolutely. A human being, I will listen to and disregard it. But a human being is much easier to convince than a human being in that sense.
AB: Okay. Teaching mindfulness and meditation.
TV: Teaching mindfulness and meditation. Now, teaching mindfulness meditation would probably be AI because it can create a guided path which is very personalized for me, can iterate on that and therefore can and can really understand the teaching aspect of it. Having said that, if you were to say, making me into somebody who meditates and who's mindful, so basically changing my identity, I think a Human being can do a better job there. So teaching, yes, Sustaining is a different thing.
AB: Predicting illness before symptoms appear.
TV: 100% AI, it's already far better than any human being is in most areas where it's able to look at a vector of multiple scans and is able to come up with predictive diseases which, which. Which human diagnosticians can very rarely do. So.
AB: Okay, and the last question, changing your energy.
TV: Both can honestly. But the magnetism that I see reflected off in human beings, AI is still quite a far away. So I would say if I had to choose, it'll be, it'll be a human being, today, because it's just, we don't even need to talk. I can look in someone's eyes and feel very differently. But I do think that my debates and discussions with AI and reflections with AI have oftentimes led to a shift in my rhythm. And so it's not like AI cannot.
AB: Thank you, Tushar. That was a fantastic conversation. Thank you so much.
TV: I loved it. I love the focus and passion around AI. Thank you.
AB: That was an incredible conversation with Tushar today. We saw that the AI wellness revolution isn't about robots replacing humans. It's about using smart tools that nudge us, that guide us, and sometimes even surprise us with how well they understand our needs. But it also leaves us with questions. How much should we let technology decide for us? And how much should we still leave to human intuition? If this episode sparked something in you, whether it's questions or. Or give you some information you didn't have, share it with a friend who's curious about the future of health, fitness and well being. Don't forget to hit subscribe. It's free and it means you'll always have these conversations ready whenever you need inspiration or you need a reset. Because remember, wellness isn't a destination, it's an algorithm. It's a journey. And you can rewrite this every single day. I'm Anshu Bahanda from Wellness Curated, and as always, be curious, be credible and be compassionate to yourself. Thank you.
