Are You Missing These Vital Nutrients? Unlocking the Secret to True Wellness

You might think burnout, anxiety, or insomnia stem from stress, emotion, or mindset—but what if the real cause lives in your cells? What if what you’re feeling isn’t emotional at all… but biochemical?

In this illuminating episode of Cultivating Inner Peace, host Anshu Bahanda is joined by Dr. Marian Alonzo, Medical Director at The Farm, a world-renowned wellness resort in the Philippines. Together, they explore mineral therapy, an ancient-meets-modern approach that addresses physical, emotional, and energetic imbalances at their root.

Dr. Alonzo, trained in behavioral biochemistry, shares how unrecognized deficiencies in minerals like magnesium, zinc, and iron might be fueling your panic attacks, restlessness, or brain fog—and how healing might be as simple as listening to your body and feeding it the right fuel.

They discuss why most wellness efforts fail without foundational nourishment, how mineral testing is often overlooked in Western medicine, and why even the best supplements sometimes don’t work.

Have you ever felt “off” but couldn’t explain why? Or tried every mindset tool but still felt exhausted? Or wondered why your body doesn’t respond to vitamins?

Watch now to discover how peace might not be a state of mind—but a state of minerals.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Intro
• 2:28 Mineral Deficiences
• 14:59 Signs of Depletion
• 33:30 Mineral Therapies
• 35:20 Outro

Transcript

Anshu Bahanda: What if you are not tired? You're just depleted. What if it's not burnout, but biology? What if the missing piece in your wellness puzzle isn't another mindset hack? But Magnesium. 

Welcome to Wellness Curated. I'm your host, Anshu Bahanda, and we're doing this very special series on ancient wisdom for modern living. And the season within it is called Cultivating Inner Peace. Now, when you talk about inner peace, our brain automatically goes to the likes of meditation or, mindfulness.

Or something to do with the mind. But what if the real roadblock is something more fundamental than that? What if peace isn't just a state of mind? It's a state of minerals. Today we are going to dive into mineral therapy. It's an ancient meets modern approach to healing, and it looks at physical, emotional, and energetic wellbeing because sometimes fatigue and anxiety, lack of sleep. These are not mindset issues. Or even if they are, they can be sorted out through mineral deficiencies. Joining me today is Dr. Marian Alonzo. She's the medical director at the farm. The farm is a globally, celebrated wellness resort based in the Philippines, and Dr. Alonzo blends conventional science with traditional wisdom. Welcome to the chat, Dr. Alonzo, and thank you for taking the time to be here with us today. 

Dr. Marian Alonzo: Thank you for inviting us over there. 

AB: I'm going to jump right in and ask you what if the likes of your fatigue, brain fog, anxiety, what if they aren't emotional problems? What if they're mineral deficiencies and people haven't tested for them?

Do you find that often? 

Dr. MA: Yeah, so I, I have my background. I have a background in behavioral biochemistry. So we first and all doctors, we first look at the organic or the biological reasons possible, biological reasons before even considering the psycho emotional imbalances. 

AB: I see. So are you saying to me that this is something that every doctor should look at before medicating people, should every doctor be looking at   mineral deficiencies? 

Dr. MA: So doctors would normally order complete blood count, electrolytes, chemical profiles before even medicating. So you will see some deficiencies already, however. However, there are other, targeted minerals, like for example, diabetes.

It could be iron deficiency, but because of the prevalence of diabetes, doctors would just prescribe sugar lowering drugs. Without checking for mineral. The common minerals that will be checked would be sodium, potassium, chloride, phosphorus, all this, but the special ones. Like sometimes magnesium.

So for hypertension, you want to check the magnesium content because low magnesium is one of the commonly undiagnosed reason for hypertension. 

AB: So that's what I want to ask you about magnesium, because I take magnesium sometimes when I feel, you know, I do my blood once every six months, but I've helped a lot of people who couldn't sleep by saying try magnesium and it could help you. And they said, oh my God. It was magical. So talk to me about magnesium, because one, I know it helps with sleep, of course. You're saying it helps with hypertension and is it true that it can, even if you are really low in magnesium, you could even be having panic attacks.

Dr. MA: So the thing about magnesium is it's a muscle relaxant. So if you are feeling tense inside and you lack magnesium, then the mechanism of pacifying you is not there. The other thing about magnesium is that it's a light bearer. So, people who have panic attack, it's as if there's no hope or whatever they felt at that moment.

They're not so powerful about it. But if there's this light within them in the form of magnesium, it would've not been as bad as the. Panic attack that they've been experiencing. 

AB: So what do you mean it's a light bear? Explain that to me. 

Dr. MA: There are substances that, like for example, iron. Iron is something that you need to ground you. So people who have low iron, if they stand up immediately, they feel dizzy because they need that grounding quality. Zinc, for example, has this balancing quality and therefore zinc has a lot of properties if you take zinc for, for immune system, and if your immune system is already okay, zinc could be good for the ice because it has this balancing quality.

So now, magnesium. This is quite technical, but if you go into the chemistry of, biochemistry of things, it holds light. So think of a crystal. You know how a crystal is like a stone, but what makes it different? The molecule. So for example, diamond. So diamond is white and it reflects light and holds light.

It's made up of carbon. And another carbon say graphite from, you know, the pencil, the black ink of the pencil. So that's also carbon, but exposed under extreme pressure. And over a period of time, the molecules of the carbon start rearranging themselves in such a beautiful lattice that it becomes, crystal.

Then it can hold light, and so it's the configuration of the molecules as well. 

AB: That's fascinating. I didn't know that about magnesium, so that's fascinating. But I'm going to take you back to something you said in conversation. Just to put it into context for our listeners. You said that when you go to a doctor for any reason, you should first go through all the minerals and the electrolytes, and you should have all those tests done.

In the Western countries, that's not the case. I know I grew up in India, so I know in India there's a lot more blood tests that are done, but in the Western countries, very often you're just given that medication. You are not made to do a blood test. So I just want to hear your views on that. 

Dr. MA: First, the word should, so that was something.

Maybe it's not should, it's just that when we were medical students, we were asked to get all the tests done. And why? It's because we did not know any better. We were just students and young doctors. So we didn't have the experience yet, but over time when you've, when you've encountered the same cases over and over, somehow you can let go of some of the tests because you saw you have an idea, what could it be, and then you narrow down.

So that's one. The other reason why, doctors would not ask for more tests, it's because some, some patients do not have resources. So yes, yes. An intelligent test then. The, the money that will be used for diagnostics will have to be diverted to treatment and through an intelligent guess. 

Yes. Yes. I guess that's the reason.

AB: Let's again go back to basics before I carry on with more questioning about this. So you are saying if you can try and get blood tests done, so it's probably makes sense to get blood tests done once a year. Right? Anyway, to find out the state of your health, what would you ask people to look at? Minerals, vitamins.

What else? 

Dr. MA: I'll complicate it a bit because it's not just blood test. There's a difference between what's in the blood and what's actually stored or absorbed in the body. So the tests, the kind of tests will depend on the specific symptom, the specific clinical history of the patient. That's why doctors, we, we take time to look at the history, the even diet, because.

If you're talking about mineral deficiency, the diet is a very much component necessary to consider. The tests are just confirming what you are already suspecting. 90% of the information will still come from a thorough history and physical examination. 

The first thing, I guess, is the history, and then you ask for tests for someone who can afford it.

AB: What tests would you recommend in general, people should get, is that a balanced list you could give us? That we can tell people that'll help them. 

Dr. MA: If you have access to, cause there's what you call the oligo scan. So it, it's a screening test. So when we say screen test, one test and so many information you can get from there, the, the minerals, the vitamins, the heavy metals in just one test.

AB: Okay. It's called the oligo scan, is it? 

Dr. MA: Yeah. So it's, so O-L-I-G-O and then scan. 

AB: Wonderful. 

Dr. MA: So it's spinning test and it uses light signatures, so there certain minerals or elements have light signatures, and then it, it's actually a Nobel Prize winning Indian technology. 

AB: Oh, wow. Okay. So there's minerals, vitamins, and heavy metals.

Heavy metals, I guess are toxins. Is that right? 

Dr. MA: Yes. In a way, yeah, there are allowable, amounts because there, there's also value in having these heavy metals. I know it sounds controversial, but, for example, someone who's not grounded, you know, the idea of grounding, right? When you're connected to the earth and there are people who live in their heads and they're not ground.

So the body will hoard heavy metals or other ways by which you become grounded. So heavy metal tendency for smoking. So not everyone who smokes it's is addicted. It's just that sometimes they need that, way to bring them down because they're in their heads all the time. 

AB: I want you to clarify before we carry on the difference.

Between vitamins and minerals. For people listening, 

Dr. MA: Vita means life. So it's actually, you know, vitamin A for the eyes, vitamin E for the skin. So these are nutrients for the body. The minerals are actually solid version of elements or compounds that support. So, vitamin deficiency. For example, you have a deficiency in vitamin D.

And you're taking vitamin D, but how come the vitamin D is not going up? Because you need what you call co-factors and minerals act like that. It's like a transporter. So the vitamin, the vitamins can go to where they are needed to go. And there are some gates in the body that would require, keys.

So minerals. Act like that. The thing about vitamins also is you have natural from food, right? So these are easily absorbable by the body because the body  recognizes this. But sometimes you get this in the form of supplements and because it's an analog, it's not the real thing. Sometimes the body would reject that.

AB: Oh, I see. Okay. 

Dr. MA: There are factors why some people would be taking something, but then it's not going up because there are other factors to consider. Quite complicated, but also very interesting if you really go into it. 

AB: No, it's very interesting and like very often you have people saying, I'm, I'm taking one supplement that helps me with everything.

I'd love to hear your views, but mineral therapy needs to be more targeted cause you might be taking a lot of extra supplements. Correct. If you're just taking one, which has all the minerals. 

Dr. MA: Well, here at the farm and even, even before I joined the farm, it's really as much as possible get your nutrients from naturally consciously produced fruits and vegetables.

For example, you have brown rice in there. You also have B complex. You have the iron, the magnesium, manganese, copper, whatever is needed by the body. And then. What the body needs. It takes on, what it doesn't need the molecules, if it's coming from natural substances, there's a term called biological transmutation.

So for example, You don't have iron, but you eat green leafy vegetables and, and there's iron there. It's now shifts to other substances. It meet, transforms. So chemically produced substances don't have that biological transmutation quality. 

AB: Yes, and what I found in the western world a lot when you go to a doctor.

You are given medication for something because the whole process of mineral therapy or supplement therapy takes longer. So there's a lot of people being treated by medication that could be sorted out through supplements and through minerals. I'd love to hear your views on that. 

Dr. MA: I would recommend supplementation.

If there's a tendency for depletion or if there's a documented depletion already, then you can have supplements. If it's just a tendency, then you take supplements only for this period of time, and the reason is because you want your body to do its job. And if you take supplements all the time without rest.

Then the body realizes, oh, I don't have to use this quality anymore. I don't have to do this work anymore. And that could be problematic later on in life. 

AB: Okay. How do people recognize that they're in a state of depletion? Because a lot of people miss it. Are there certain signs that they need to look out for?

Dr. MA: So the first thing is, you know, the body will send out. Subtle signs. Maybe you feel tired, maybe you feel like you, you cannot articulate it, but you feel like you're not yourself. So these are early signs, very subtle signs. And if you sit down and you listen, then the body realizes, oh, now you're listening.

It can self-regulate at that point. But if you are continuing to look, stay stimulated outside and not really listening to your body, it will bring up the sensation into maybe shaking. Or you know, what's this mini ticks? Or nerve ling sensation. So still tolerable. You can still ignore it, but you know, you cannot deny that it's there, so it goes up.

And then if you still ignore that, it goes up again until it, the body will need to throw a temper tantrum to get your attention. By that it's already depletion. And you can already, you can already document that in the laboratory, but the initial signs that I, that I mentioned, these are not yet documented in the labs.

So we go back to, you listen to your body because that's a very important quality before even going out there, you know, because that, that's the thing we're so modern people, you're so stimulated by the out and outside environment, including screens that you don't listen to your body anymore. 

AB: So basically you are saying slow down, listen to your body.

Is there anything irregular about what you are feeling? 

Dr. MA: Even the moods, you know, mood swings could a form of imbalance. You don't act that way normally, but suddenly you snap and that's the body telling you, I don't have enough. Can you take care of me? Something 

AB: Lovely. Now are there life-threatening mineral deficiencies?

Dr. MA: Yes, but this is already the extreme. So remember, you need only trace amounts of minerals for the body to be functional. So you have been ignoring your body for so long to actually go into life-threatening case, or maybe not long, but very intense. So for example, you know, there's this, if you have this flashing light, some people, if they don't have enough minerals, that flashing light could cause problems including seizures. 

AB: And what about everyday life? You know, things like running around, like you said, you, we don't stop, there's caffeine, there's everyday stresses, there's emotional trauma. How do all these things affect our mineral stores? 

Dr. MA: So the thing is, there's what you call normal health. And optimal health. We wanna be in the optimal. So optimal is when you reach a certain age, you are not, you don't have memory problems, you don't have muscle problems, you don't have mobility problems. That's optimal health and that's the, the idea is to be in that state as we grow old now.  It's normal for people to have to take coffee, just to keep them awake, to get them through the day.

So the more you're dependent on outside substances, the more the body is using reserve energy. And this reserve energy usually is meant for the future, and you're using it. So a lot of old age illnesses could have been prevented if we had been listening to our body when we were younger. 

AB: What is required for optimal health? 

Dr. MA: If we have a family history of acid problems or hypertension.

Then you want to check your magnesium. If you have a family history of diabetes or you have a tendency for high blood sugar, you need to check your chromium. 

AB: Chromium. 

Dr. MA: If you have immune system problems or your challenges, you want to make sure you have zinc. 

AB: Zinc, yes. 

Dr. MA: If you have tendency for inflammation in any part of your body, it's vitamin D plus K two.

Those with mood swings or history of, family history of bipolar tendencies. Lithium. And then, you go to your nutritionist or now you can go online, what are foods that are rich in zinc? Lithium, magnesium, potassium. 

So that's the minerals. So that takes care of that. 

AB: In terms of vitamins, would you say to people that take a multivitamin every day, but your belief is eat it through your food?

Right. 

Dr. MA: Yeah. So, but in terms of minerals, for example, if you have this fatigue, then you want your vitamin B complex. But if you are the type who has ringing of ears, you know the Tinnitus.

AB: Yes. 

Dr. MA: And then you have this, tendency to double check if you lock the door or not. So the obsessive compulsive tendencies, yes, you want vitamin B, but without the B12, E 12 heightens the tinnitus as well as the OCD tendencies.

AB: A lot of people like do things like prescribe forest walking for increasing your, the mineral and vitamin content of your body. Do those kind of things, do engaging with nature help. 

Dr. MA: Definitely, and it's not only the vitamins, minerals, it's also the microbiome, the probiotics, which is also one of the things that you want to include in your supplementation, should you want to supplement.

So you have this ancient plants that release certain, you know, there's an interaction between plants and human being. It's not just the oxygen carbon dioxide thing, it's also the quality of the soil. So there are so many things that you're getting even, the kind of, moisture that your skin is getting from forest bathing is different from moisturizing your skin.

So there's also, you know how it is in the city when you get water, it's through tap. And that's, you know, a very angular faucet, you know, pipes. But when you look at nature, water is meandering. Yeah. So there's what you call enlivened water and dead water. So someone lives, in the city, I'll ask them to, if this is your, water bottle, you just, you know, swirl it so you have that vortex or you use a spoon to sort of create that circular movement because that enlivens or activates your water. For example, I remember there was a time I had a, a cancer patient, so I needed to purify the body, and I, I, I was running out of time and so I did some research and it said glacier water, so it's still water, but.

You know, water from the glacier. Very good in purifying the body. And I'm just lucky that the patient has the money, so we access that. You know, before the farm I used to work for a medical research company. We measure so many things, including here became popular. And, so I could see the difference that indeed ordinary hydration, you have what they call structured water.

So certain structure, structure to it that makes it a, a better dissolver than ordinary water. But glacier water is of another level, and you realize it's not just the biologic, you know, the, the structure, chemical structure, you know, H2O oxygen and then two hydrogen molecules. It not, it's not just the angle of the molecule, but also the, the memory of the time that went with it. So there's like wisdom. 

AB: Oh, that's wonderful. And did that glacier water help your patient? 

Dr. MA: Definitely. 

AB: You talked about minerals, you talked about vitamins. When for optimal help, we are now talking about optimal. You talked about hydration and how sort of the right kind of hydration for your body.

You talked about food. What else do we need for optimal health? Exercise, sleep. 

Dr. MA: And then when you say exercise, it's more of mindful movement. Okay. So it's not just, oh, I need to do this movement, and then you're, it's more mechanical, but something that gives you joy. For example, if there's the social component to the exercise, it's more fun to go to.

Exercise. And then you realize it's not just the feel good hormones of physical work, that's there, but you also have serotonin. That's the sharing hormone. You've accomplished something because you've exercise. That's the dopamine. Yeah. And then the bonding. So there's the oxytocin, which are components for blissful living.

AB: Wonderful. And, and the last one you said was sleep. Sleep. 

Dr. MA: Yeah, so that's very important. And again, here, this is where minerals also come in because if you are, if you have less magnesium, you're not sleeping properly, which is what is happening to a lot of people all over the world where there's major sleeping issues.

But something to do also with the blue light of the screen. So just a experiment. So it was something that I read and it's not, you know, it's not yet, really studied. But, you know, if you read something and it seems logical, I, I suggest this to our patients and then they give me feedback. So even some, so there are many ways by which you validate.

So one is your personal experience, the experience of those who are desperate and want to try something else. Then the, the mainstream, which is randomized control trial, but sometimes it takes so long. And they need answers right now, and they are the ones who are willing to try. Okay. So let's see, one hour of not anymore, doing blue screen or screen time, then they realize, yeah, sleep is better.

That set of patients, the light is very important for others, not much of an effect because there's an underlying, maybe mineral deficiency.

AB: And there's certain things like migraine insomnia, PMS, which I've known to be sorted out through mineral therapy. Would you like to talk to me about that?

Dr. MA: Well, if you're talking about mineral, it's magnesium, so again, it's a muscle relaxant, so. There's that component. But, and then there are studies already that mention that. So say for example, PMS, so biologically what's happening there is the body prepares to have a baby. Cause that's what it is. Before, before menstruation, the body would, produce all these blood vessels, and then there's no fertilization that happens.

So all these blood vessels would need to be shed out. So there's like a disconnect between the biological need to, to have a baby. And then this idea of not having a baby. So even if it's not conscious, you don't want to have a baby, but biologically you are designing, your body is getting ready.

AB: Absolutely, yes. 

Dr. MA: So before the menstruation, right? Is this, the body already knows that there's no baby that was formed? All those hard work. For what? Yeah, because biologically you're supposed to bear a child, right? 

So that's where the angst is coming from. So same thing with, for example menopause.

So there's this hot flush and it's really the body creating so much heat to neutralize hardening tendencies. So if you can see that these symptoms are not really just inconvenience, but ways by which the body is trying to communicate with you, then it shouldn't be much of a problem. 

AB: So we go back to all these things you've mentioned, insomnia, PMS and migraine. It's all related to you not listening to your body and when your body listened to, it starts to harden, it starts to gear up to defend itself because you are not doing the job when you take magnesium. It's a muscle relaxant. 

Dr. MA: The body can relax because it realizes it's not in danger.

AB: Okay. And you said for migraines also, because I know people who've tried everything for migraines. You said magnesium also helps with migraines? 

Dr. MA: No. I was talking about insomnia. So that's insomnia. Now for migraine, there's always the, the digestive component to it. So notice people who have migraine, they must have eaten something.

That they know they're not okay with, and maybe they, you know, they went to a restaurant and they didn't have a choice, then they have migraine. So, the digestive component, there's the light component and you see how, this part of our body, the one that yes. So the thing about migraine is there's you know, the ankle, so me, so there's a point in your body just below the ankle.

I, I'm gonna show you. Sorry. 

AB: Okay. 

Dr. MA: This point sometimes. Okay. And just below that, right? If you have migraine, you have what you call aura of migraine. So before the actual headache is the sensation that you are about to have a migraine. Okay? You, it's on that point because, okay, it's, it's known as the morphine point of the body.

Okay? Or pain is trapped over activity in a small space. So if you press on that point, you are enlarging the space. So the, the flow is including the feet. So there's called as above. So below. If this is overactive, you need to neutralize that by doing self foot massage. So the more you do that, the less frequent the migraine will be.

AB: Interesting. Tell me if we gave people a 30 day. Let's get you to optimal health. Now, we can't, you know, not everyone's come to us and asked us to look at them individually, but if we just said, this is something we are gonna tell you to do over 30 days to transform your health, is that possible? Someone who's averagely healthy.

Dr. MA: There's always the individuality.

But in general, if you have what I've already mentioned, I, you, you want zinc for, yeah. So zinc. Magnesium. Vitamin C you would also want, because it's something that the human body cannot produce. Animals can produce vitamin C, but not human beings. Then you also have to have your omega threes. 

Flax seed if you're vegetarian or fish oil if you are non vegetarian. Right. Probiotics you would want. Right. Acid tendencies. Right. 

If you have a tendency for, uh, diabetes, you want chromium, if you have a tendency. Hypertension. You want magnesium, but you know more than the oral. So I've already said whole foods, right?

AB: Yes. Yes. You said that.

Dr. MA: Thermal magnesium where, you know, Epsom salt, which you get from.

AB: Yes. 

Dr. MA: So you, you can have a, like Epsom salt bath and you just, you know, lime it. 

AB: Yes, yes. 

Dr. MA: Or you can also have in spray bottles, you know, just dissolve the magnesium shake and then you can spray where it, where there are pains.

So, okay, if it's a muscle, it'll relax that muscle. 

AB: Now I want to ask you about one. Well, one resin that's mentioned in a lot of the Ayurvedic texts, which is Ji, people call it the destroyer weakness. They say it contains 80% of the minerals in our body. You know, a lot of people are talking about Himalayan JI these days.

It seems to be some sort of a trend. A lot of people are consuming it. Can you talk to me about, and then tell me, does it help with healing and with inner balance? 

Dr. MA: The answer to that is see for yourself, know for yourself, number one, if you try it and it helps you, maybe because you have certain deficiencies.

Oh, I, I also want to highlight, it's an ancient thing, so the microbiome, ancient memory that go, that went into that substance. So it's a black substance, right? I haven't really, it's like a black resin, right? So it's a refined version of multivitamins. So it has other factors, microbiome, et cetera.

So I would want to try it. If I have access to it and I have a patient who needs it, I will just, you try, no, let's try for one week, two weeks, and let's see. And usually just like when I mentioned zeolite and this glacier.

There's even one, there's a. You've heard of the Quintin Li liquid. So it's, it's again, ancient liquid from, I, I bought, I ordered it from Spain and I had a patient who really needed it in less than two days we're done.

So this, she legit, it's of another category. They're up there with the, you know, certain panics, not ginseng. If I have a patient with a stroke. Then I will need that high quality pan noten. So it's, it's, it's in that category. Okay. It offers just the physical substances. 

AB: Ah, interesting. Okay and tell me, are there any in minerals or mineral therapy, any ancient mineral therapy that we've lost touch with today, which you will recommend people to look into, to go back to, which will help cultivate inner piece. 

Dr. MA: Some people would access this mud from, you know, the, there are certain muds, right? 

AB: Certain muds from different parts of the world. Yes. Yes. 

Dr. MA: And you want, you want variety. Because just like forest bathing, you would benefit from a certain set of ancient cedar trees from another place.

You'd get something from there also. So again, it's not just the physical component, but the ancient healing memory. 

AB: Its, thank you so much, Dr. Alonzo. That was an amazing chat. We started by talking about minerals, but I think we've expanded to trying to help people in every aspect of their life. So thank you for that.

Thank you for all the wisdom you've offered, and thank you for the time you took to be with us today. 

Dr. MA: Thank you. Also, I would like to end with we physical beings, but we're also spiritual beings, and so sometimes illnesses would come because we need to listen to the message. So when we decode that message, you realize if you support the illness and not suppress it, there are certain capacities that the patients will develop and it's a capacity that's meant to, you know, be a bigger person, a better contribution to the world.

AB: Lovely, lovely. Thank you so much for all your help. That was an incredible chat. Thank you. Always a pleasure to talk to you. So if you're feeling tired or you're feeling anxious or you're not being able to sleep, it may not be mindset, it might be the minerals. I'd like to say a huge thank you to Dr. Alonzo also for highlighting to us that it's not just one thing in isolation. It's not just the mindset or just your physical body, it's your body, your mind, your spirit. They all contribute to your wellbeing. You have to look at yourself as a package of everything, and that's when you get to optimal health.

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